What does 'the next level' represent for Crystal Palace?

Written by Patrick Stevens

 

“We shouldn’t accept mid table, we need to push on to the next level”; 

“Parish needs to get his hand in his pocket so we can push onto the next level”;

“look at Leicester, why haven’t we pushed onto the next level?” 

How many times do you hear people talk about ‘the next level’?  

It’s as if football is a career path: in year one, you survive, year two, survive comfortably, year three, maybe mid table obscurity and then, you are really ready to 'push onto the next level'.

So, what is this ‘next level’? and does it really exist? 

I must declare my hand early doors: I think the concept is a complete myth. It is a symptom of modern football where fans think they need to sound more Danny Murphy than the Wealdstone Raider. It is proof that if you repeat something often enough, it becomes fact. We live in a world where “the next level” has become a football cliche every faux pundit digs out when wanting to sound wise. 

To be honest, when I hear someone say ‘the next level’, it produces an irrational level of irritation in me; – it’s right up there with “you’re thinking like a fan” (when we react to the sale of our most exciting players like AWB); “it’s a good bit of business” (when we sell our most exciting players) and “you’ve got to admit, Margaret Thatcher did some good”. 

Anyway, back to the point; the ‘next level’?

The top level, the top 6, are wealthy beyond the dreams of avarice. With twenty or thirty years success or a super rich owners who spends more  than most countries spend on health and education. They have a global fan base, can pay players like Sanchez £2M per month, hoover up 9 year olds world-wide like an industrial trawler in an aquarium and have the never ending cash cow of European football. It's an elite club that even Elton John can't afford, and unless a dubious owner buys us, we are not getting in.  

READ MORE: What do Crystal Palace supporters want from their club?

So where's the next level then? 

Arguably there is a next level: it is Everton, but they have been in the league for 100 years, and now have a supremely rich investor. Even then, in a good year, they finish maybe 3 or 4 wins above us. 

Assuming the next level means no danger of going down and pushing to break into the top 7; who is that?

Don't tell me it's Leicester. Yes, they won the league but that was a once in a lifetime bolt of lightening; they were favourites to go down and won the league. They weren't at 'the next level' they were freaks (who just one year later sacked their manager and were repeatedly thrashed by Palace) 

It's certainly not West Ham (lol); who for all their porn money and big buys are consistently rubbish and play in the most soulless stadium in the league. Wolves? well yes, they had a good first season but that's down to immensely rich backers, and let's wait for the dreaded season 2. But have no doubt; their success is bought. It's certainly not 'plucky little Bournemouth, despite their Russian billions. And it's certainly not Watford, who for all their investment and crowing this year finished just one point above us with a worse goal difference. 

So where is this mythical 'next level'. I will tell you where; it's in Alan Greene's cliches; it's TalkSport talking crap, and it's every football bore from Southampton to Sunderland. It's Charlton fans wanting Curbishley sacked because they'd finished 7th; it's Tony Pulis and Fat Sam thinking they can do better than Palace. 

The truth is every season there are 12 of us trying to stay up. Yes, the gap with the newly promoted gets a bit bigger every season, but well organised defences, a decent striker and a decent manager puts most teams within the shade of a goal post, or an offside toe, of each other. Every season the points total required to stay up reduces, and no one (except the miracle of Leicester) breaks into the top 7.

So, strap in, enjoy the ride, dream of a cup run, and love the many moments of joy we get: the Man City aways; Wilf's one man victories; cult heroes, the singing home and away ......and just hope we beat bloody Brighton!


 

What do Crystal Palace supporters want from their club?

Written by Mark Silverstein

I remember reading an article in a Palace fanzine (Five Year Plan almost certainly!) about ten years ago which discussed whether it was a realistic ambition for us to be a Premier League club. The point was made that in our roughly one hundred year existence we had troubled the top division only thirteen times, so how could we assume that our rightful home was there.

Notwithstanding that we have increased our cumulative years in the top division significantly since promotion in 2013, the question still is a valid one.  We may kid ourselves that we are now an “established “ Premier League club but the threat of relegation will never go away, unless we can find an incredibly rich country to buy us. Only six of the clubs in the Premier League have not played in a lower division since the Premier League was created in 1992 and with the exception of Everton they are all well funded Champions League (or worst case Europa League) regulars.

Starting from the premise that the shadow of relegation will never be entirely absent, do we want to be a club that has its focus entirely on staying in the Premier League by whatever means (and whatever playing style) or are we prepared to accept that relegation is a fact at some point or another and there is no point sacrificing everything to avoid it.

READ MORE: Who should Palace sign to replace Aaron Wan-Bissaka?

To date, I would say we have been the former, which is understandable given where the club has come from in terms of years of underinvestment and Administration. Nearly every year we have spent some (occasionally significant) time in the relegation zone with a change of manager saving the day.

Ironically last season was our most successful season in the Premier League by far. Highest points total, never in the relegation zone, the only club to beat the champions at their own ground in the league and kept the same manager all season. And was the reaction from the faithful Palace support? Joy? Celebrations? Happiness? No. The focus was all on the negatives- Brighton doing the double over us, the overall poor record at home with few goals being scored and the loss to Watford in the FA Cup quarterfinal (thereby doing the triple over us which was almost as annoying as Brighton doing the double). The goal fest against Bournemouth on the final match of season provided a more cheery end but given the overall success of the season it is hard to explain the grumpiness. With the loss of AWB and the potential loss of Zaha the coming season is looking like it could be a bumpier ride than last season.

So, this brings me back to what do we want from our club? Boring, mid-table mediocrity does not seem to be the right formula based on last season. We seem to take for granted the good bits and obsess about the not so good bits. Unfortunately the definition of mediocrity means there will be some not so good bits. And even more unfortunately unless we get some seriously rich owners that like losing money, realistically we are not going to anything better than mediocre.

The fact is Palace supporters have been on our proverbial rollercoaster since arguably 1969 when we were first promoted to the First Division and like Pavlov’s Dog we are now used to it. Although I suppose it is possible that eventually we could become conditioned to mid-table nothingness, that would probably take many years and I for one could not stand the years of collective grumpiness we would have to go through to get there.

Ultimately football supporters want drama and excitement and Palace supporters are no different. Our financial position has meant that we have got our fix from both the highs and lows.  Stockport in 2001, playoff victories in 2004 and 2013, and Administration and Hillsborough in 2010 are just a few of the more memorable recent examples. Rather than fretting about where we could/should be in the table, we would all be collectively happier if we accepted our lot, jumped on the rollercoaster and enjoyed the inevitable highs and lows for what they are.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not one of these supporters who long for the days of the Championship and if we continue to bounce around mid table for many years to come I will be delighted. It would be wonderful if the new Main Stand was built and we could leave the shadow of relegation behind us for good. But for our collective sanity let’s just recognise that what matters is the club not the league or league position and enjoy our club for what it is; however we perform on the pitch. I have booked my (season) ticket and am looking forward to the rollercoaster!


 

Who should Palace sign to replace Aaron Wan-Bissaka?

Written by @BlendedDadUK

What now for Palace at right-back? Here's @BlendedDadUK with some options the Eagles should go for.

I suppose it was inevitable. We all knew it deep down. When a talent bursts on to the scene and puts in consistently brilliant performances in the top league in the world, it is only a matter of time before the big boys come calling. Wan-Bissaka, our Croydon born sensation, made it impossible for the best clubs in Europe to ignore him.

As a result, the New Addington lad will be playing at Old Trafford next season, as United desperately find a formula to break into the upper echelons of the Premier League. Meanwhile, we’re left with close to £50m to play with for a full-back who only got his chance to play with the first team due to a freak injury list back in late February, 2018.

Like many, I was dubious about the initial reports of United interest in AWB. He had only played one full season and £50m just seemed like a ridiculous amount of cash for a boy who is still learning his trade. I started to believe there was real truth to the rumours after AWB had a nightmare against France U21s in The European Championships. I had never seen Wan-Bissaka play so badly. His positioning was poor, he kept making bad decisions and he capped off the evening by scoring a disastrous own goal. Something was clearly up with our boy. His head was elsewhere.

LISTEN: FYP Podcast 291 - Are Palace now the blueprint?

When the transfer was finally confirmed the majority of Palace fans wished AWB well. A touching thanks from the player circulated social media and there was a sense that both United and Palace had done well out of the deal. It’s sad we will never see him again in a Palace shirt, or sing probably the best chant we’ve created for a player since the classic Yohan Cabaye song, but it is time to move on and consider who would be an ideal replacement. There are options out there. Here are my top 5.

Max Aarons – Norwich City

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Similar to our AWB (he’s not “our AWB” anymore, I need to get over this) Aarons lit up Carrow Road in his first full season as a pro. The Hammersmith born 19 year-old became a firm fan favourite with consistently brilliant performances. His meteoric rise saw him awarded the 2018–19 EFL Young Player of the Season and it is expected he will go on to achieve lots in the game. Norwich’s promotion means they won’t be in any rush to sell and it will take a huge bid to turn their heads.

Timothy Fosu-Mensah – Manchester United

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Remember this lad? It’s fair to say he didn’t particularly rip up any trees when on loan to us, but it was difficult for this young man to shine after being brought to the club by Frank De Boer, a manager who was so clearly out of his depth it was embarrassing. Many would say Fosu-Mensah is a centre back, but in truth he has the quality and athleticism to play at full back. Didn’t particularly shine at Fulham, but at the right price it could be worth a look.

Diogo Dalot – Manchester United

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Another Manchester United youngster. Dalot joined United from Porto last season for £19m after Jose Mourinho saw great potential in his fellow countryman. Still rated at United, despite the purchase of AWB, he may well be a player who would benefit with a season-long loan at Selhurst.

Kyle Walker-Peters – Tottenham

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Walker-Peters is another player who may benefit from a season-long loan away from his current employers. Quick, powerful and a player who has an eye for an assist, Walker-Peters is at a stage in his career where he needs regular football to realise his true potential. We have the money to purchase him outright I’d imagine, but Spurs would be reluctant to see him leave on a permanent deal.

Nathaniel Clyne – Liverpool

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My personal favourite and not merely because he is “ex-Palace”. Clyne has had an unfortunate couple of seasons. When he joined Liverpool he was gaining many plaudits and was on the verge of being England’s first-choice right-back. Injury and the emergence of the outstanding Trent Alexander Arnold, meant our former academy product was forced out the team, leaving to go on loan to Bournemouth towards the end of the season. He wasn’t particularly outstanding down on the coast and clearly needs a fresh start elsewhere. If Clyne comes back to Palace, keeps his head focused on developing his game (rather than being in the media for reasons other than football) there is no doubt he could be a more than capable replacement for AWB. At 28 he’d be able to fill the role for a couple of seasons before we look for a younger replacement.

Either way, there are full backs out there who are available and decent quality. One thing is for sure, we’d struggle to ever get an AWB again. He truly was a class act. But what he ended up representing could be invaluable. Fellow youngsters in the academy will look at what AWB achieved and dare to dream. Maybe listing alternatives of who to buy is a waste of time. AWB proved there could be sheer quality right under our noses; we just need to put our faith in them and give them a chance.


What does the future hold for Max Meyer at Crystal Palace?

Written by FYP Fanzine

When the 2018 summer transfer window closed it's probably fair to say that Palace fans were most excited about Max Meyer from all the arrivals.
Chiekou Kouyate arrived with plenty of experience and a snip at £10m, Vicente Guaita came from Spain off the back of some brilliant form for Getafe and cost nothing but it was Meyer that arrived with the biggest reputation.

There were some seriously high hopes for the young playmaker after he broke into the Schalke first-team at the age of 17 in 2013 and he was even dubbed the 'German Messi' in his homeland, but then let's face it, what promising youngster hasn't at some point.

In many ways, he was Schalke's Jonny Williams; similar position, similar stature, both blonde, both products of an impressive academy.
His breakthrough season of 41 games and seven goals in 2013/14 was his best to date, a bit like Joniesta who never quite matched his breakthrough season at Palace either, a few years before.

Meyer was even handed Raul's no.7 shirt in his second season and continued to impress in the Bundesliga and Champios League, so much so that in 2014 was linked with a move to Arsenal.

But things started to change and after being moved into defensive midfield during the 2017/18 season by new manager Domenico Tedesco, he became frustrated, struggled for form, slagged off the club's sporting director Christian Heidel and was left out of training for the rest of the season. He ran down his contract and joined Palace that summer.

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And arrived to much excitement in South London, a lovely #MeyerOfLondon hashtag and a reputation for being one of Europe's hottest prospects, despite not having quite fulfilled his potential at Schalke. Still, costing literally nothing (apart from signing on fee and wages of course) he was seen as a huge bargain and at 22 his best years ahead of him.

But it just hasn't happened for Meyer at Palace this season. There have been flashes here and there of what he can do but nowhere near the level of influence he - and Eagles fans - would have hoped he would have on games.

But that hasn't nessecarily been his fault. He has started just 14 games all season in the league, and finished only two of them. He was introduced from the bench 14 times also and has scored one goal; in that 4-3 defeat at Anfield. He also notched in the FA Cup at Doncaster.

But having not featured regulary and with worries about his physicalty there had been some suggestions he would be moved on this summer after just one season in South London but FYP's very own Kevin Day has an update on that.

On this week's FYP Podcast, Kevin revealed he had stepped in to host the Palace Detectives end of season dinner which featured a Q&A with Roy Hodgson and talk, as expected, got round to Max Meyer.

Kevin continues: "I said where does Max Meyer want to play and Roy said 'funnily enough we have had this conversation with him, we did remember to ask Max said where his favourite position is' and he said it's on the left of a narrow midfield three.

"Roy is adamant that's where Max wants to play and that we'll see more of him next season and he'll be a better player. He said he's tried to protect him from the physical nature of the Premier League, he said he was totally taken aback. He said at the end of the Burnley game which he started he was physically exhausted and said 'I've never played a team like that at any stage of my development that only want to get the ball forward as quickly as possible'.

"The thing that most encouraged me was Roy was adamant Meyer would still be with us next season and that he would be very much part of his plans."

READ MORE: Julian Speroni - A Man Who Touched Every Corner of Our Club

So there we go. Meyer very much in Roy's plans for next season but how he fits in only the Palace manager knows. And how much genuine game time he will get is also up for debate.

And in the final game of the season - that eight goal thriller against Bournemough - Meyer was excellent and arguably had his best game in a Palace shirt. Moving the ball quickly, retaining it well and playing some lovely triangles with Zaha and Batshuayi, from that narrow left midfield position Hodgson loves.

It's also worth mentioning he is still only 23. For reference Yohan Cabaye joined Newcastle from Lille in 2010 at as no.10. By the time he moved to Palace four years later he was a very different player, more comfotable in defensive midfield, much stronger and far more combatitive.

That's not to say Meyer will do similar but a few years surviving English football certainly had an effect on Cabaye as a player.

However the fact he will still be here will doubtless make most supporters happy, with little doubt there is a big will for Meyer to improve and have a real impact at Selhurst.



How do Crystal Palace actually achieve progression in the Premier League?

Written by FYP Fanzine

Well here we are again. Final game of the season, a safe mid-table finish on the cards and another summer of hopeful yet ultimately disappointing transfers (probably) on the horizon.

Most Palace fans seem to be split into two camps; those that are frustrated that the club don't seem to be able to progress from a mid-table side that keeps flirting with relegation and DAMNED LIARS!

Just kidding, there are plenty of Eagles supporters who seem happy that the team are just there to compete each season, finishing well above the drop, well above Brighton (again) and have arguably the club's best ever squad.

Indeed, this season is actually the first since returning to the Premier League in 2013 that Palace haven't been in the bottom three all campaign. Added to that the emergence or Aaron Wan-Bissaka, Wilf Zaha's continuing brilliance, the plans for the new Main Stand (in theory) and those wins at the Etihad and the Emirates and it's not a bad scenario at all.

In fact, since January and the loan arrival of Michy Batshuayi, Roy Hodgson's team haven't gone more than one league game without a win. That's an overall win record of one in two which, quite frankly, is excellent. And actually puts Palace into the Top 6 into he form table.

If results fall the right way this weekend, an 11th-place finish isn't out of the question, matching last year's finish albeit with a greater point total (and potentially Palace's most ever in the Premier League).

It can't be undersold how a stretch of seven wins, three draws and four defeats from the last 14 matches has helped get the club to this point, and arguably that could continue into next season, if the core of the squad were to remain intact.

LISTEN: FYP Podcast 290 - You're welcome, Brighton

But what of it? Palace are currently level with Southampton and Watford at 1000/1 for the title next year, according to SBD, putting them at eleventh-best to take the league. That's a familiar refrain, 11th, and whether the tune changes for good or bad may rely on retaining the chemistry built towards the end of the season, and that may begin in retaining Player of the Season, Wan-Bassaka.

Some big clubs will be circling around Aaron (and Wilf) this summer and hanging onto those two will certainly signify a successful transfer window regardless of who is brought in.

And just like last season and the season before that the Eagles have ended the season strongly but it does beg the question; how do they do it for the entire season and when are they going to actually make an impact on the Top 10? If Watford, Leicester and Wolves can do it, why not Palace?
Money is one factor. All three of those clubs (and West Ham and Bournemouth who are ether side of Palace in the table right now, have spent infinitely more than the Eagles in the transfer market in the last two windows, and probably will do again this summer.

It's no secret that money isn't flowing from the Selhurst coffers - mainly because Hodgson keeps saying so in press conferences - and it makes that comfortable mid-table finish all the most impressive. Especially without a decent striker for more than half the season.

READ MORE: Hodgson Deserves Some Criticism for Palace's Insipid Home Form

But it's also fair for fans to have loftier ambitions. Chairman Steve Parish has encouraged supporters to aim high in the past and this squad certainly has the ability to challenge the Top 8 (the stats suggest that had Palace managed their post-January form all season that's where they would be now). So clearly it is possible.

And it's not unfair to want that either. We all would love to see our team challenging for major honours, upsetting the apple cart and really making a splash. And when there is a squad packed full of genuine stars that's not an unreasonable request.

But a quick glance down the road at Charlton Athletic does also offer a hint at what could happen if fans start becoming too demanding. They are still recovering from some ludicrously short-sighted gambling some 14 years ago when things were, quite frankly, going fine in the Premier League.

So what now? Well, the summer will indicate just how serious Palace are of pushing on next season and trying to break that Top 10 but we should all be wary of gambling too much and if it has to be another season of mid-table obscurity that's fine for now.


 

Julian Speroni - A Man Who Touched Every Corner of Our Club

Written by Robert Sutherland

Julian Speroni isn't just a legendary player. He is a legendary person says Rob. 

The word legend is so frequently used that it carries less gravitas than it used to.

A legend isn’t just a player who featured for a season or two. Or a player who scored a few goals. A legend is someone who created a legacy. The kind of player that, when pictured, people identify with the club he played for. Or a moment in time that he created. Someone you can identify with. Someone who is era-spanning, history-defining.

Julian Speroni is all those things. But in his case, the word really doesn’t do his contribution justice. He didn’t just touch upon the playing field but touched the lives of those around him. He wasn’t just a hero to the fans, he was a friend. He wasn’t just a teammate, he was a leader. He wasn’t just a player, he was a saviour. Not just of shots, but of the club he played for.

There have been a few excellent goalkeepers at Crystal Palace. There’s typically a list of three that come to mind. John Jackson. Nigel Martyn. Julian Speroni.

Fans of other clubs might never really understand the fuss about our Argentinian legend. And that’s okay. But they don’t know what we know.

READ MORE: Julian Speroni - The Rise of a Palace Legend

They don’t know that he stuck around despite being maligned by a succession of not-very-good managers. They don’t know that he took on the challenge of having to impress new managers each time one walked through the front door (17, if you include caretaker managers). They don’t know that, at a time where the club was on its hands and knees, he refused moves. They don’t know about the many saves we’ve witnessed.

They don’t know that he’s been through everything we have been through over the last 15 years; wins, losses, promotions, relegations, administrations. And that’s okay. He’s ours, not theirs. These are our memories to cherish.

There are so many things that speak truth to the character of Speroni. Whether you ask those who help with the Crystal Palace Supporters Children’s Charity, where each Christmas he would dedicate extra time to spend with the kids in attendance. Or with the Palace For Life Foundation, where his Testimonial Fund helped to pay for the purchase of powerchairs so kids could play powerchair football.

Or with the many kids and adults that ask for his autograph or photo inside and outside the stadium. Or with the Holmesdale Fanatics, with whom he built a special bond during his testimonial year. Or even with us at FYP, where he spent hours talking about his love for the club on numerous occasions.

READ MORE: How do Palace actually achieve progression in the Premier League?

This is a man who goes out of his way every time to help people. To be present. In a world where the closest you’ll get to a footballer is from behind a security cordon or on social media, Speroni was the most human, most accessible player you could meet.

Times haven’t always been easy for Julian. His career started on the wrong foot, and it took him years to finally convince the people that mattered that he was the goalkeeper that Iain Dowie had seen so much in when he first signed from Dundee. Even in recent years where contracts haven’t always been as forthcoming as in previous years, Julian has stuck around, proved his worth and when needed, has stepped in to the fold and done his best.

Some will say that age has caught up with him, but Julian will tell you that age is just a number, and that his physical fitness and sharpness are still there. That he is leaving the club to seek first team football is testament to that drive and desire he still carries. 

We will all be sad to see him making his last appearance at Selhurst Park on Sunday. Whether he plays or not, it’s imperative that those who can, stick around to show appreciation to one of the truest of Palace legends there is.

There will always be a place at this club for Speroni. There should be a statue in his honour.

Thank you Julian Speroni. See you soon, we hope.