Roy Hodgson: The Questions That Need To Be Answered

Written by Tony Peers

Another season has come to an end and, unlike most seasons previously (bar that Pardew season), it promised so much with a solid start from the team. You wouldn’t say that Palace came out of the blocks quickly, but a few wins and draws had us comfortably in the upper half of the table. We were never really considered to be fighting for a European spot, but four wins in a row before the Covid-19 crisis and one against Bournemouth following the restart did put us in a strong enough position to ask the question.

The football was rarely exciting, but in typical Hodgson manner, we ground out results with a solid defence and a reborn Jordan Ayew. Unfortunately, the wheels then came off. An aging squad marred with injury prone players, predictable tactics without inspiring substitutions and an over reliance on ‘pass it to Wilf’ saw us slip to seven defeats in a row and a “regression to the mean” meant that the team finished in fourteenth with many questions that needed answering post season.

Going into our record eighth season in the top flight, many fans are now calling for change, but the issue is...what needs to change? The players, the manager, the tactics, or all three?

Palace have been lucky in that, as I have mentioned in a previous article, we have not had any major ‘star’ players leave the club and those more popular team members have been replaced by arguably more talented players (Jedinak for Milivojovic, for example). However, this has is often with older more experienced players and now the squad has one of the oldest average age in the league. Older players do not necessarily become bad footballers, but injuries can occur more often and, unfortunately, the congested fixture list post lockdown has shown the frailties of the squad outside of the first team.

As is usual during a bad patch, fans are calling for wholesale changes and to ‘reinvigorate’ the team with young blood to bring the average age down. Every club hopes to unearth a Bruno Fernandes type that would change the fortunes on the pitch overnight. Palace made wholesale changes in their first top flight season back and it nearly cost them. Too many changes too soon not only remove any cohesion the squad has, but also means players have to learn how new members play, their strengths/weaknesses and that takes time.

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Gradual changes over a number of transfer windows is often the best method, but lately we have had next to no changes. It is obvious that we need players to bolster the team and create healthy competition, but that shouldn’t mean removing the players that have helped to keep the club in the top flight often quite comfortably over the past couple of seasons.

One player that will be the centre of attention during the next transfer window will be Wilf Zaha. In his ‘prime’ years and thirsty to prove himself as a top-class player, we have been lucky to keep him as long as we have, but it seems, according to the press and many fans, that he will be moving on this summer. Now that the board have managed to balance the books within FFP, and another potentially high transfer fee (along with the money from the sale of Wan-Bissaka), means that the club may have the opportunity to bring in fresh legs, but the question is…how many players are needed and in what positions? Could there be solutions in our current squad that could solve problems with a new perspective?

This bring us to the next question; should there be a change in tactics or philosophy? Many football fans describe their desire for free-flowing attacking football, but realistically only the ‘bigger’ clubs with the larger budgets can bring in the players capable of consistently achieving this. For most clubs, a solid defence first is the key to staying in the league. Palace have shown this under Roy Hodgson. No club outside of the blue chip clubs has survived on a ‘score more goals’ philosophy for long because if the goals dry up and you are still leaking goals a team will slide down the table towards that dreaded drop zone.

That’s why managers like Roy Hodgson and Sam Allardyce have been successful in making a career out of ‘rescuing’ clubs by first “respecting the point”. It’s not always the most attractive football that fans claim to desire, but it is effective if you want to avoid relegation. The issue is that over time, this tactic appears boring and unambitious. Fans don’t just want their teams to simply make up the numbers behind the ‘big 6’. They want to compete and put pressure on the team to score more goals, but has any club survived long by outright changing the tactics that have keep them in the league in the first place. Think Charlton, Stoke, Fulham and they are more.

Unfortunately, players dip in and out of form and players get older, so ultimately a manager does have to change their tactics over time to accommodate, because squad size limits this. The problem with keeping the same tactics is that the team become predictable. Take our situation. Absorb pressure then pass it to Wilf and hope he produces a moment of magic. If Wilf is being marked out of the game, pass it to Andros, Jordan, etc and hope they can do something. Counter attacking football can be very effective against a team that attacks but, once a club have successfully been in the top flight for long enough, the teams coming up that they face will look to sit back. After all, they are now the ‘smaller club’ with the smaller budget and less players with ‘Premier League experience’.

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The same tactic, obviously, doesn’t work against every team, but how can you develop a playing culture if you have to adapt your tactics every match to accommodate the opponent? This is the major issue managers have in the modern game. West Ham have tried to play the ‘West Ham way’ with attacking football and it has nearly got them relegated a number of times (and has done on a few occasions). Similar to the issue with the players, I agree that a shake-up of the tactics needs to happen as we have become too predictable, but what would this look like? Do we change the tactics every game? Do we go more attacking and sacrifice some of our defensive strength? Would a new manager have different ideas and get something different out of the current players we have?

That brings us to the final question; should there be a change in manager? Palace have unfortunately gained a reputation for changing their managers on a regular basis. We have had seven different managers in seven seasons since climbing back into the Premier League. Most fans will agree that these changes were essential in keeping us in the league and that the era of staying with a manager long term went long ago. However, how can you have stability if the man in charge continually changes. Many are calling for Roy Hodgson to be replaced, but has the manager really been backed with the players he needed to adopt the tactics he wants to play.

Unfortunately, by the very token of his age, Roy Hodgson cannot be seen as a long-term solution by default, but he has not helped himself. Refusal to look at youth and a reluctance to make changes on the pitch by rotating the squad before or during matches would make any chairman question whether any signings would make a difference. The club’s first goal, and rightly so, will always be to stay in the division and Roy Hodgson has done this on three occasions now and quite comfortably (with hindsight).

Therefore, if the that is the only goal, the club can save money for other development projects like the new academy or the elusive new stand, knowing that a regular income from simply being in the Premier League can be used there rather than splashing out on new expensive players because the manager has a track record of achieving survival on a ‘shoe-string budget’. We know that we have a talented squad in comparison to others and that most will ‘do a job’. The problem is that it is not ‘entertaining’, so would a different manager get more or anything different from the current crop?

All three of these questions will need to be answered over this very short summer break. Do we back Roy with the players he wants in the hope that new players may mean new tactics which may mean more ‘success’, or will things stay the same? Same players, same tactics, same league position and the same fan complaints. Realistically, a new manager would mean a change in personnel and tactics, so changing the top man would could mean a change in all three. It puts the chairman in the very unenvious position of having to make that decision alongside a lot of fan and media pressure. Therefore, to change or not to change; that is ultimately THE question.


 

Wilfried Zaha leaving Crystal Palace This Summer Is Something Fans Need To Prepare For

Written by Robert Sutherland
After Roy Hodgson admitted Zaha is keen to leave, that's something Palace fans will have to prepare for this summer. 

On Sunday evening after Palace's final game of the season, Roy Hodgson admitted that Wilf Zaha has been agitating for a move away for some time. It's not a scenario Eagles are are unfamiliar with but maybe this time it could be time to actually prepare for his deaprture.

"It's obviously affected him because his form in the last few weeks has really been quite poor considering what he is capable of doing," Hodgson said to reporters after the game. "It's a dilemma for the club and a dilemma for him if he is so set on leaving. If he feels he just does not want to be with us any more, that would be sad.

He added: "We still like him very much; we can't make him like us. This is a situation that only he and the club can sort out. I don't have an answer." Strong words from Hodgson who usually tends to keep his powder dry with these sorts of things. 

For football clubs, the pandemic has created plenty of cruel scenarios over the last few weeks and months. Liverpool and Leeds Utd fans haven't been able to enjoy their side's title wins.

Fans of League 1 and 2 clubs haven't been able to celebrate play-off wins at Wembley. Luton Town and Barnsley fans haven't been able to see their sides climb out of the bottom three, while Charlton fans haven't been able to witness the utter dejection of their side getting relegated.

And for Palace fans, they didn't  get to see Wilfried Zaha, one of the greatest ever Palace players to wear the red and blue, make potentially his last appearance for the club at Selhurst Park. They didn't get to sing his name, or say thank you. They didn't get to say goodbye.

 
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A football stadium, packed with supporters, is where careers start and careers end -- and yet on Sunday, Selhurst Park was quiet, with just the sounds of players and management's shouting ringing around the empty stands, as Zaha did what we've all become so accustomed to. The winger's push and pull approach to seeking a move reached a climax during the last summer, and with Palace doing the impossible by warding off interest from Arsenal and Everton, there was a sense that it would just be a matter of delaying the inevitable. 
 
There had, according to reports, been promises made to the winger that the previous season would be his last. The club would let him go were they to receive an acceptable bid, reflecting what the owners valued him at -- believed to be in the region of £80m.  Arsenal apparently rocked up with a derisory £40m offer, while Everton reportedly did the same, only for the club to reject both offers. The winger was subsequently told that he would have to stay, to the chorus of members of his family imploring the club to allow him to make a dream move to Arsenal, the club he supported as a child. 
 
As the highest-paid player at Palace, suggestions from some of Zaha's friends, such as rapper Dave, that he was being held against his will by an 'evil club' were a little over the top -- but it seemed clear that a move away would be the only satisfactory conclusion for a player who is eager to compete in Europe and at the top end of the table. 
 
Most Palace fans wouldn't begrudge him a move. They know the club's level in the pecking order, and having witnessed Zaha's genius over the course of his career, it's clear that his talent deserves to shine on a grander scale. It is however disappointing that such a move would likely come following what has been a relatively frustrating season for Zaha. Perhaps this transfer window really is the ideal time for such a move. 
 
Zaha's potential departure will signal a major shift for Palace. His presence hasn't just helped the club get out of unenviable tight spots over the course of his career, it's made the team one which, at times, has played almost entirely with the purpose of empowering the attacker to play a winning role. 
 
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This has made the Eagles increasingly predictable and as witnessed this season, should opponents want to defeat Palace, the best way to do it is to mark Zaha out of matches, leaving the side with a blunt attack. Palace need to reinvest the Zaha money in attacking players that can give the manager variety across the front three, with a focus on ensuring that the club move away from being just a one-man team. This one move should result in multiple signings. 
 
As for Zaha, the hope is that a move away can fulfill his dreams. That he can become part of a title-winning unit, ideally abroad, and that wherever he goes his new manager and his new fans can appreciate his talent. Zaha needs to understand the value of first impressions, the importance of showing a positive attitude, and understand that unlike Selhurst Park, another fanbase might not be as forgiving.
 
Palace fans have watched in wonderment at Zaha's brilliance, even in matches where he hasn't always played a winning role. His talent and contributions have made him one of the best Palace players in the club's history, and he'll always be remembered for his legendary contributions. 
 
If this really is his final game in red and blue, then thank you Wilfried. It's been an absolute pleasure. It's just a shame we can't tell you how much. 
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Opinion: Hodgson Deserves Time, Support and Understanding from Owners

Written by Greg F.
Following Nav Khan's piece suggesting it's time for Roy to go, Greg F. is here to argue Hodgson needs more time and support at Palace...

Barring a surprise victory over Tottenham on Sunday, Crystal Palace will secure a 14th place finish in this our 20th season of top-flight football. Given the current mood on social media you might not believe it, but this would go down in the history books as the eighth best finish in our history. If you were to place the surely-never-to-be-beaten 3rd place of 1990/1991 to one side, then 10th place in 2014/2015 would be it.

Tenth place. That’s it folks. So surely a 14th place finish is something to be proud of? Surely securing a 21st season of top-flight football is something to be cherished in itself?

Following Naveed Khan’s excellent piece (even if I do disagree!) from earlier in the week, and a whole lotta noise on social media, I can’t help but feel that we need to take a step back and contextualise this season. Hopefully the opening paragraph has gone some way to doing just that, but it is also worth adding that - once again, barring a nasty surprise on Sunday - this season’s side will record our joint-third best defensive record of our twenty top-flight seasons with just 49 goals conceded.

Now, while a team based on a solid defence is apparently unfashionable in 2020, that is a record, you must admit, deserving of recognition and, of course, respect.

If we are then to delve deeper into the circumstances that frame the Crystal Palace team of 2019/2020, a relative lack of investment becomes strikingly apparent. Since Roy’s appointment in September 2017, an estimated total of £25m has been spent on new signings. By way of comparison, this figure for Watford is over £65m and a whopping £96m for Bournemouth.

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The result? An ageing, unbalanced group of players who have been collected by various managers preferring various styles of play. As for the quality of those players, could anybody argue that it is significantly better than 14th best in the Premier League? The lack of firm interest in any member of the squad - with the exception of Wilfried last summer - is revealing.

What cannot be escaped, however, is the fact that this side has lost its last seven games in-a-row, and will most likely make that eight this Sunday. This would equal the club record set in both 1925 and 1998. Admittedly, this is of concern and has made for a difficult watch. But, once again, context is King.

This daunting run of eight games has included Liverpool, Leicester, Chelsea, Man Utd, Wolves and Tottenham, who all have far better players at their disposal. That doesn’t excuse the defeats to Burnley and Aston Villa, but are we proposing spending money on sacking Roy and Ray for two unexpected defeats? A fixture list that piles the toughest teams together at one end should not cloud judgement when results dip through that spell.

If all that context is taken into consideration, then a 14th place finish should be more than enough to allow Roy and Ray another season at the helm. It certainly should be enough to spare Roy, who used to watch Palace in the stands as a boy, of ageist abuse on social media. If it is the defensive style of football this season that you don’t like then that is completely understandable.

However, remove Roy and Ray and the players remain. Could another manager have them play more expansively and secure a finish of 14th or above? Be careful what you wish for...

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Opinion: Roy Hodgson's Time is Up -- And He Deserves a Dignified Exit

Written by Naveed Khan
FYP Contributor Naveed Khan makes the case for Roy Hodgson to be relieved of his duties, following seven defeats in a row.

When Roy Hodgson was appointed as Crystal Palace’s manager, it came without any fanfare. Quietly appointed without a press unveiling, with a typically dignified message to the fans on the club website, it seemed that Palace were appointing the only manager capable of reversing Frank de Boer’s damage – we knew he would be stable; we maybe didn’t realise just how stable he would be.

There is a growing divide among the fanbase about Hodgson’s position as a manager and the status he holds in the ranking of Palace managers. The crux really is what to judge him on – is it league finishes? Style of football? Progressing the team? Developing players? Results in the context of resources at his disposal?

The divide exists essentially because for some fans, as is their right, judge him on his league finishes, that he is responsible for three of the seven Premier League survivals in this top flight spell and he has not been backed in the transfer market. Others will point to the manager’s reluctance to use certain players in the squad and issues with the tactics to counter that.

As ever, the truth is probably somewhere between the two. Hodgson has done a very good job at times; survival in first season was not just achieved, it was done in some style and with the backdrop of an injury crisis and an innovative strategy playing often without a recognized striker. The following season, he probably achieved par with his squad by the end and some of the football post 40 points was open and entertaining.

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At that point, following the sale of Aron Wan-Bissaka was a chance for the club to invest in the squad, bring the average age down and give the manager some more attacking options. For whatever reason, the squad was not significantly strengthened and Hodgson has to an extent had to make do with a relatively small squad. On the face of it, even this season is seen as a job well done.

But for fans who watch the team each week, it is not so straightforward. Even with the small squad, there has been a negligent lack of rotation – with a double negative which cannot be made positive. Players used each game have succumbed to injury or lost form. Players who need game time to develop have not been given much despite doing well when playing, such as Jairo Riedewald. Others, such as Max Meyer, have not been used in either of the roles he played for at Schalke and is often only given a few minutes out of position at the end of a game which the team is inevitably losing in.

The question really in terms of the small squad is whether Hodgson has made the best use of it or has the use of the squad made it seem worse than it is?

The next big question mark is player development – how many players at Roy’s disposal have improved in the time he has been here? It is much easier to point out players who have gone the other way. Luka Milivojević, Mamadou Sakho, Patrick van Aanholt just three examples of players who seem to a shadow of the players they were at the end of Hodgson’s first season here. The major worry is further forward.

Christian Benteke scored 66 goals in 132 Premier League starts before the manager’s arrival. Andros Townend has regressed from being an effective attacking threat to being a functional wide midfielder.

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The jewel in the crown, Wilfried Zaha, who excelled in the freedom given to him in Roy’s first two seasons, is now stifled. Playing wide on the left, rarely allowed the freedom to swap flanks and working back as much as he is going forward. The push for the team to keep the ball has also seen him not take players on, instead of looking for a pass inside. The regression of Wilf, the suppression of his game and negation of his threat is all down to the team’s set up. When the one man the fans and players turn to for a bit of magic has his wand taken away, Palace are relying on a set of 0-0s to see them through.

And that is the biggest point for why a change now is needed in the small break between seasons. Not because Hodgson has not done a good job -- because he has. But because he is no longer doing the job as well as he was. he is not improving the players he has and as we evolve to a younger squad, there are questions as to whether he is the right man to be the lead in that. His reluctance to give time to younger members of the squad and to embrace creativity suggests he is not.

But he does not deserve a quick press release sacking. He deserves to go with his head held high for what he achieved at his boyhood club, while recognising it is the end of the road for him here. He deserves to go in the same quiet, dignified manner in which he arrived.

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What can Crystal Palace expect from Nathan Ferguson?

Written by Warren Bishop

Warren Bishop from Read West Brom and WBAVlogs gives us the low down on Palace's new full-back.

One thing you can expect from Nathan Ferguson is that he is versatile. Despite his natural position being at centre back, in his first half of the season for West Brom he has played at right back and left back as well as the usual centre half spot which shows a lot about his character at such a young age as he has put in numerous solid performances from those positions.

At Crystal Palace, I think he will be used mainly as a right back which on the whole will be a positive thing for you guys. Ferguson does appear as small but he is not afraid of putting up a fight. He has held his own at full back so many times holding off some top Championship wingers.

On the attacking threat though, he might not benefit the Eagles as much. With him naturally being a centre back he is reluctant to really push on and hardly gets past the half way line and when playing for us that has been a bit of a problem as he has not supported the wingers enough to open up the opposition defence when trying to create a chance.

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If he is going to be a regular starter in the Palace side expect a few mistakes from the young lad. Of course at only 19-years-old he is still learning and will be prone to a few slip ups and he has done this for Albion. If he is getting pressured he does tend to panic and often loses the ball as a result of that but yet again that is due to him being young and he will learn and develop in to a better footballer learning from that.

Another positive for Ferguson though is that when he does get forward now and then, he will always take the opportunity to shoot. At QPR earlier this season from around 25 yards out he unleashed a rocket for his first goal for the club. He gets plenty of power and direction on his efforts which will always cause the opposing keeper problems if given the space to do so.

Finally, I'm sure Crystal Palace fans will be really pleased to know is that when joining the club he will always give you 100% on a matchday. For a young footballer, he has got such a fantastic attitude.

Unfortunately, because he is leaving us after half a season, many of our supporters don't see it that way but I understand why he has left because the opportunity of playing in the Premier League is too hard to turn down, particularly at such a young age and it being likely that he will get regular game time.

It is a shame to lose him from our perspective because we could have got a lot more money for him to build our squad up for the rest of the campaign but the nonetheless you sure have a special footballer on your hands that has a bright future in front of him.

I really hope Nathan is a flying success at Crystal Palace and continues to move his career in the right track at your football club.

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Former Crystal Palace Captain Mile Jedinak Retires from Football

Written by Robert Sutherland

Mile Jedinak has announced his retirement from football, ending a playing career in which strong leadership was a focal point. 

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Promotion-winning Crystal Palace captain Mile Jedinak has today announced his retirement as a player, putting an end to a stellar career that, for Palace fans at least, helped to shape the club into what it is today.

Jedinak, who was born and raised in Sydney, arrived at Selhurst Park via a spell in Turkey, and despite a slow start became a central figure in Dougie Freedman’s team which then went on to win promotion under the guidance of Ian Holloway. 

His leadership was clear to see in that promotion-winning side. A powerful, uncompromising central midfield presence, the Australian didn’t just lead on the pitch but also off it. He has been credited by fellow professionals as being key to the side finding the resilience it needed to secure a playoff spot and to then win those, and it was his goal against Peterborough United in the final regular game of the season which secured that play-off spot. 

He didn’t just prove his worth to the promotion side however. His work rate and leadership became crucial in the Palace’s successful Premier League safety, helping to shepherd the team to safety in successive campaigns. Alongside James McArthur and Joe Ledley, Jedinak formed a midfield partnership -- structured by Tony Pulis -- that made Palace's midfield one of the most challenging to break down.

 

Jedinak went on to captain the club to only their second FA Cup Final, in a run that saw them come within minutes of winning the competition in 2016.

His captaincy came to an end that summer, following Alan Pardew’s decision to pass the responsibility to Scott Dann, a move that he wasn’t consulted about and that ultimately signalled the end of his Palace career. It was, to many Palace fans, an acrimonious decision — especially given the unceremonious way in which it happened.

A proud Australian, Jedinak also captained Australia through two FIFA World Cup tournaments  as well as to their first ever AFC Asian Cup win. His playing career after Palace also saw him guide Aston Villa to promotion from the Championship.

We at FYP have been incredibly fortunate to have had Jedinak as a podcast guest. You can listen to his appearance on the podcast prior to his FA Cup Final appearance by CLICKING HERE to get a sense of the man's character and the quietly confident leadership which was so key to the side's success. 

Thank you for your dedication to the Palace cause, Mile. For showing us the true meaning of leadership and for guiding us to some of the most memorable moments in the club’s history.