Poor Policing leaves bitter taste in mouth for Palace fans after Charlton cup win

Written by Robert Sutherland

The League Cup brings Crystal Palace fans into contact with opposition supporters that, due to the club's Premier League status, tend not to visit Selhurst Park often. Shrewsbury Town fans were welcome guests last month - they came, sang, watched their team battle bravely and cause Palace a few problems, and left. That should be the norm, win or lose.

The visit from Charlton yesterday was not such a case. Despite the Greenwich club being roundly consigned to third place in the rivalry rankings, it's still a game that is likely to have some flashpoints. Blame often falls on both groups of supporters - there are some who just cherish the aggression that comes with a local derby.

With that in mind, it's unfathomable that, despite a significant police presence prior to kick-off, that presence was then nowhere to be seen after the final whistle. The outcome was entirely predictable and wholly avoidable, with supporters suffering injuries from violence that followed.

It's clear that there were plans put in place to determine how to control supporters pre-and-post match - the police met with the club, supporter representatives and a member of the Football Supporter's Federation - to draw up a gameplan and to explain their intentions. It was made clear that there would be a dispersal order for much of the day to avoid clashes between rival fans. The clashes that followed the full-time whistle clearly showed that these plans were flawed.

What is also clear is that, according to Palace's fan representatives in attendance at the meeting, the possibility of holding supporters of Charlton back for 15-minutes was dismissed. Why was this the case? What prevented the police from enforcing a method that they've used for previous 'high risk' matches? Why do they employ such a method at Millwall and not at Palace?

As is often the case with these incidents, innocent bystanders are very often caught in the middle of such aggressive behaviour. Wednesday's flare-ups saw bottles being thrown, with supporters young and old suffering injuries. These were not your stereotypical football hooligans who got injured.

It's imperative that, for future high risk matches, more is done to ensure that fans don't fall victim to needless violence. It was clear during the match (with video evidence on some forums) that there were supporters looking to cause trouble. Why weren't they removed from the situation before it became a problem?

With Palace being the home side, it would have made sense to police the match in a way that gave preference to Palace's fans. Holding back Charlton's supporters for 15-minutes would not have caused a great deal of inconvenience and would have avoided the aggression that we witnessed at the top of Holmesdale Road and the surrounding streets.

After the excitement and entertainment of a resounding win over Charlton, the aftermath left a bitter taste that could and should have been avoided.

Tottenham Hotspur 1-0 Crystal Palace: 5 things we learned following narrow loss at White Hart Lane

Written by Matt Webb

After a somewhat uncharacteristically flat away display from Pardew's Palace, let's take a look at look at 5 things we learned from this afternoon's loss to Tottenham Hotspur.

 

When the team sheets were announced, eye brows were raised at the lack of a striker starting and with Fraizer Campbell and loanee Patrick Bamford making the substitutes bench ahead of Dwight Gayle, also noticeable were the absences of Scott Dann and Joel Ward through injury.  

Palace started the first half slowly and were lucky to weather some early Tottenham storms, but as the minutes elapsed Palace grew into the game.  Chances began to tally up and the half ended shortly after a thunderous shot from the outside of Cabaye's right boot struck the inside of Hugo Lloris' right goal post.  Pardew, never afraid to ring the changes, subbed Wilfried Zaha at half time, bringing on Fraizer Campbell in his place.  Zaha had a frustrating first half, but there were indications he may have been carrying an injury. Palace were flat in the second half, but Campbell will have been frustrated he didn't see more of the ball.  After a rare Palace attack, Spurs countered and the Korean Son slotted the ball through Alex McCarthy's legs to take the lead which they held on to, despite Palace hitting the post a second time through Backary Sako's driven shot that so nearly beat Lloris.

1. Scott Dann has cover

Albeit, not a lot.  Many fans worst fears were realised today as Scott Dann was ruled out through injury.  Luckily for Palace Damien Delaney had returned from the injury that kept him out against Manchester City, so Hangeland was able to slot in, in place of Dann.  Hangeland and Delaney both performed well against Spurs and Hangeland was probably Palace's most important player on the day, second only to Cabaye.  Palace coped without Dann, but an injury to one of Hangeland or Delaney leaves Palace worryingly threadbare.

2. McCarthy has not made number 1 jersey his own.

When Palace legend Julian Speroni was ruled out of the start of this season through injury, many expected Wayne Hennessey to take over - but it was new signing Alex McCarthy who Pardew trusted between the sticks.  McCarthy had the opportunity to make the number 1 spot his own, but in my opinion has failed to do so. Arguably responsible for the Nathan Redmond goal at Carrow Road, he should have done better with the one between his legs today.  McCarthy's parrying has also been the cause of much concern at the back, as too often he seems to save majestically only to deliver the rebound right into the feet of oncoming attackers.

Don't be surprised if Speroni starts against Charlton, where a good display may earn him back his starting place in the league as well.

3. We still need a striker

Following the exit of Glenn Murray, many Palace fans indicated that the squad didn't have enough options up front; today that became particularly evident.  Like Wayne Hennessey, none of the past 4 Palace managers have consistently trusted Dwight Gayle to start.  Gayle does best when played as a second striker, and was more effective partnered either with Murray or Chamakh.  With Connor Wickham ruled out against Spurs, Pardew went with Bolasie up front, but Yala is far from a prolific goal scorer and Pardew recognised this when at half time Fraizer Campbell came on, but Campbell was clearly off the pace.  Bamford was better when he replaced Sako late on, but he is one for Chelsea's future, not our own. 

4. Cabaye and McArthur partnership is growing

The McJedley trio (McArthur, Jedinak and Ledley) has been an everpresent for Palace in the last two Premier League seasons, but Pardew never seemed as convinced of it as Pulis and this summer he completed the signing of Yohan Cabaye.  Many thought Cabaye would be used further forward, possibly putting Jason Puncheon's starting position under threat, but Pardew has used him much deeper demoting Mile Jedinak and Joe Ledley to the bench.  Against Spurs, Cabaye really showed his defensive quality with a string of perfectly timed tackles and interceptions to stop Spurs multiple times; the Frenchman seems to have formed a good understanding with James McArthur and it looks stronger with each game.

5. We miss Chamakh

I was tweeting the match day commentary for FYP today, and at full time I highlighted that today we were without our most accomplished defender, but also Wickham and Chamakh.  When fit Marouane Chamakh is one of Palace's most important players and today was tailor made for his insertion - what Palace lacked was a big target man with the ability to hold the play up and bring others in.  Neither Bolasie or Campbell are particularly strong in those areas and with Wickham out and Murray now at Bournemouth, Palace would really benefit from a fit and in form Marouane Chamakh.

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My Memory: Crystal Palace vs Manchester City

Written by Joe Bloggs

 

The final Division One game of the 1989/90 season was probably one of the most perculiar matches I've ever attended at Selhurst Park. To put things in context, this took place a few weeks before our FA Cup final at Wembley against Manchester United and, in one of those strange footballing quirks of fate, United's arch rivals from the other side of town were our opponents. Neither side really had anything to play for in the league and thus the atmosphere was totally unique in comparision to anything else I've experienced at Selhurst Park.

The hallowed turf of Selhurst had all but died and faded to a light yellow colour and resembled a carpet of straw (apparently this was down to a misjudgment by the ground staff) and Palace boss Steve Coppell picked a slightly experimental line up that saw left winger Phil Barber start the game at left back. Manchester City, having thumped their rivals 5-1 earlier in the season, filled their section of the Arthur Wait Enclosure and were typically loud and vocal.

However, the atmosphere was one of unity rather than animosity. Chants of "we hope you beat Man United" rang out from the terracing and, for the first and only time in my 35 years as a Palace fan, I witnessed both sets of fans singing each other's songs. It certainly felt odd joining in with a chorus of "Blue Moon" at Selhurst Park! All through the game both sets of fans chanted in unison "We only hate Man United". Strange days indeed.

As for the match itself, I have to confess to remembering very little, that's what happens to a 15 year old who has had four lager tops in Crystals prior to the match. I remember nothing about City's goals but remember that Alan Pardew managed to score with a tap in. Perhaps the highlight of the match itself was when Andy Gray lined up a thunderbolt from outside the area. We'd seen these go into orbit above the Holmesdale Terrace several times that season but this time he actually hit the target and it flew into the back of the net with such force I wouldn't have been at all surprised if the goal had gone into orbit with it!

But as I said, this game wasn't really about the result. Both teams were already safe in division one and a draw suited both parties. As the match drew to a close the stewards, sensing trouble was unlikely, allowed both sets of fans to mingle in the Arthur. Palace and City fans embraced each other like old friends and merrily chanted anti United songs.

A lad about my age approached me and asked if we could swap shirts so he could wear the red and blue around Manchester in the face of their rivals and I duly obliged. I still have his sky blue Brother sponsored shirt somewhere so if he's reading this and wants it back please get in touch. I will want my Fly Virgin red and blue striped shirt back in exchange though!


 

How did Crystal Palace do in the 2015 summer transfer window?

Written by Patrick Stevens

Patrick Stevens analyses Palace's transfer dealings this summer...

So that's the transfer window shut and how did we do?

Well the perceived wisdom is we did great business, did it early, life couldn't be much better. So let's explore that a little further.

Well, where else to start but Yohan Cabaye. It is hard to recall a more popular signing; the joy all seems a while ago now but it was palpable; the incredulity was real; the man love, frankly disturbing. 'A statement of intent' many agreed - although Yohan has confirmed that  none of the top 6 clubs actually made a move for him. He looks suave, cool, silky and best of all works hard. If he's half as good as Pards thinks then he is quite a signing.

Patrick Bamford of course did very well in the championship last year and, we assume, fits Pards desire to play a passing game.  However to date he hasn't even got on in front Muzza or Gayle - two strikers we were prepared to sell - and is only on loan. So the jury is out with not much to be excited about just yet.

Connor Wickham from Sunderland attracted much ridicule from the Mackems who, to a man, seemed delighted at the reported 8M we paid for him. Reactions at Selhurst have been mixed, with many warming to him after contributing to the heroics at Stamford bridge. Like most, I am hopeful more than expectant. At the moment he presents as a willing worker in the Murray mold, but more raw, less troublesome and, thus far, less instinctive in the box. The jury is out and the fingers are all crossed.

Alex McCarthy, QPR's second choice goalkeeper, seemed a strange choice. With most people one side or the other of a raging argument between Speroni and Hennessy for no1, he came from nowhere to replace both. With Jules injured this was a real blow to Hennessy's hopes at the club, and his performances have been such that Jules must be noticing the threat too. In truth, his signing has perhaps been the lowest profile but biggest impact of the lot.

Except for one.

As I write, Bakary Sako has established himself and a new fans favourite, and rightly so. A skilful, seemingly humble, beast of a man with a hammer left foot; two goals in two games have sent fans into hysterical delight. He looks the part, and seems as happy to be with us as we are to have him. His could yet be the best signing of the window.

So to the departures. Two excellent midfielders who always gave us everything and are both classy players who (but for various reasons) just didn't get the chances another time and another place would have allowed. Bazza Bannan, with a wand of a left foot and his goal v Hull, will always be loved. Adlene Guediora was just establishing himself when a nasty chest injury stopped that. Last season he was Watford's best player as they went up and no doubt will be again. Both depart with our thanks and very best wishes.

Then there's Muzza. Anyone who read my article on how important he was to us will know how sad I am to see him go. And so it seems almost everyone else is too. Much has been written and I won't try to add to that as a) it would take the whole post to do him justice and b) I seem to have something in my eye ....

So, reflections.

As I said most fans and pundits are fulsome in their praise. Many suggest we have done the 'best business', but let's just dig into that a little.

It's easy to jump on the bandwagon but is it really so brilliant? Now before you all tell me I'm mad, or worse still start yelling at me, let me first state that yes, absolutely, we did our business early, have got some very good players and probably bought a far better group of players than any other window ever.

But then, that was from a place where we already had a top half premiership team and had more money than we could have imagined in our wildest dreams - so it really should have been our best window. And perhaps therefore that isn't the test.

In that context then, how did we do? Cabaye looks great, not quite as good as Punch yet, but great. McCarthy also great, but obviously better than Jules and Hennessy? I think these are very fine margins and now we have three excellent keepers when possibly we only need two.

At the start of the window most agreed we needed a striker and a centre half. Well I'm not sure we got either.

We didn't get the centre back when Chelsea gazzumped us for Hector and up front (despite talk about Remy and Austin) we got Wickham and Bamford but lost Muzza. For me that's not an obvious improvement and is arguably a loss. Last season, when we couldn't buy a goal, it was Muzza who turned things around including bossing Man City and scoring the winner. Where those heroics will come from I am left wondering.

But making it all good we have Sako. But as we celebrate let's not overlook that Pards has been clear, his signing was down to the chairman not him as he wasn't so bothered. So arguably not the most strategic building.

Finally, we seemingly went to the wire on selling Jedi Gayle and who knows why Ledley was allowed to leave the Wales camp. With losing Muzza and suggesting that those three were dispensable, I do have concerns that we were on the verge of revolution rather than evolution, and we may still have some serious work to do to get these crucial characters back into the fold and pulling in the same direction.

And when looking for trends and clear planning, It's hard to see where the strength in depth would have been if two of that three had gone.

But they didn't.

And we kept Yala.

Unlike many, I never thought he would go; why would he leave a team that gives him profile, game time, adoration, money and international caps (and who wants to play for Spurs anyway !?). Despite the ludicrous criticism he gets from some, keeping Yala is much more a statement of intent for me than even buying Cabaye (someone Spurs didn't want). And for those who would still sell him, the way he came on and made both goals v Chelsea should cause them to pause and reflect.

And that takes me to my final point: The way some fans queued up to call for palace players to be discarded as if they were inanimate chattels. Was it just me that tired of tweets about players as if they were clapped out old bangers to be bought or sold without any feeling. The emphasis on profit over character, contribution and community was depressing.  I think many of us realised the perils of such an approach as Muzza posted his farewells and Jedi looked on the brink of going. Players like them, men like them, are rare and worth more than gold.

The clichéd lines about selling a 32 year old for 5m being 'good business' could not be more misguided: firstly palace is more than a business - that's why we are successful. Secondly, even on a business basis alone, his goals last year were worth more than 5M and are we sure we won't need them again?  Muzza and people like him are worth much much more than just their stats and 5M quid to palace these days is neither here not there: it's just a Zekki fryers give or take a bit.

Forget that and we risk losing a lot more than we might realise.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think for a moment that our board or our manager thinks like that, quite the opposite and that's why things are so good. Also, we have a great team and got some more so there is room for genuine optimism. But I do think it's worth keeping our eye on this.

Final word - with Bakary Sako, Yohan and Connor joining Jedi, Yala, Jules, Dammo and the rest we can put all the excitement behind us and get on with spoiling a few more parties and singing them all the way to another great season.

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History suggests we shouldn't get too carried away with Palace's success

Written by Joe Bloggs

Another season in the top flight begins and it looks like all is going swimmingly at Selhurst Park. Some fine close season signings and a true international star have made their way to SE25 and we are in the process of tying the likes of Yannick Bolasie down to new contracts. A win in the League Champions' back yard has given us a start that nobody dared dream of before the season started, with nine points out of a possible twelve. We're on the way to establishing ourselves as a mid table Premier League club, aren't we?

Don't be so f***ing stupid.

We've been here before, remember? More than once. Back in 1979 we sat proudly at the top of the top flight with a squad made up mainly of home grown players that was inappropriately dubbed the "team of the 80s". Though I was little more than a babe in arms back then, I know exactly how that ended. Within the space of 12 months we went from being spoken of as future title challengers to being rooted to the bottom of the table, unable to buy a win. Relegation followed along with a fire sale that saw some of the finest young players in the country replaced by a group of lower division cloggers and disinterested journeymen looking for one final pay day. Then the club seemingly lost half of its ground and nearly all of its money and we struggled to tread water for the best part of a decade.

And ten years later we went one better. Promotion to the top flight, followed by our first ever FA Cup final, a minor trophy and finishing as the third best team in the country. This was swiftly followed by us losing our best players, replacing them with inferior specimens, losing our highly rated manager and relegation. OK, we went back up as Champions immediately but this time we barely strenghtened at all and fell straight back down to the second tier as quickly as we'd been promoted.

Still, we remained optimistic. Even a narrow defeat in the play off final failed to extinguish our optimism and we managed to overcome that hurdle the following season and a new era at Palace was annouced. A new owner, with an bottomless pit of money, waiting to take us on to the next level. Hell, we even managed to secure the signature of one of the finest players of his generation, a true world star who seemed to fit right in with the ethos of the club. Unfortunately that the bottomless pit of money we were promised actually turned out to be a small hole in the ground filled with IOUs and final demands.

But, we even survived that. Yet another new owner comes in and starts splashing the cash around and eventually we reach the promised land again, though this time a poor manager and poor signings sealed our fate and it was only a few years before we were penniless again.

I hear fans saying that this time it's different. That this time, because we have financially astute owners, there's no chance of us being relegated ever again. We will go from strength to strength. Yohan Cabaye is the yardstick of the type of signing we will make in the future. I say to those fans, enjoy the hell out of this season. Because it won't last, it never does.

See you in the Championship in 2017.


 

Glenn Murray to Bournemouth: Crystal Palace just sold their best striker

Written by Neil Peters

Goodby Glenn. Neil Peters reckons you'll be missed badly in SE25.

Palace just sold their best striker

I’ve got to be honest, when Glenn Murray signed for Palace in 2011, I’d never heard of him. A free transfer from Bright*n? I know we were just out of administration but this seemed to be scraping the barrel…I was wrong.

For some unknown reason I went to his debut away at Peterborough on the opening day of the season. The pairing of Scannell and Murray looked like a strike partnership that could really prosper. This didn’t ultimately work out but he was on the goal trail three weeks later. The 2011-12 season wasn’t one of spectacular goalscoring exploits, he actually only bagged 7 that season. However Muzza wrote himself into Crystal Palace folklore on 27th September 2011, slamming home a goal from 20 yards against his former employers in a 3-1 defeat for Albion, their first at their much lauded Spandex Arena. He will be ever immortalised by his nickname, christened by a demoralised Seagull, FFS Murray!

Another highlight of that first season was of course scoring the winning goal away at Old Trafford in the League Cup quarter-final.

Following that less than explosive first season, I for one could not have predicted the season to follow, although Mr Freedman had kept faith with the dour northerner. 

Muzza went on a phenomenal goalscoring spree as he fired Palace to the top of the table and into the playoffs. He finished the season on 31 goals and the operating table, having torn his cruciate ligaments against Brighton (who else?) in the playoff semi final. He was of course on the pitch, on crutches, at Wembley as the team paraded the playoff trophy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSeEddgEn7g

His Palace career has been stop-start since that injury, and was sent out on a loan spell to Reading to gain fitness. His much awaited Premier League career finally began to take off when Alan Pardew took over the reigns, and Glenn bagged a respectable 7 goals in the second half of the season. 

He is a striker of guile, clever movement and strength in the air. These skills and his trademark aggression were forged in the lower leagues and refined in the Championship. He’s proven he can lead the line as a lone striker, play with great effect alongside a nippy striker (reference THAT chest down against Liverpool) and score goals in the Premier League.

And Alan Pardew just sold him to Bournemouth. I really hope he knows what he’s doing. 

We’re now left with a more mobile, but less experienced striker in Wickham, Bamford “unproven at this level”, Gayle who cannot really play the lone role, the permanently injured Chamakh and the unfancied Campbell.

I think we may have just sold our best striker.

Whether or not this proves to be a good decision in the long run, it will definitely come back to haunt us on Boxing Day. FFS MURRAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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